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Originally Posted by Doge
Some of that is based on how fast your are going to start with. Improving 30-32 is pretty hard. @canuckbelle would have to tell us the two speeds.

FWIW our team is a mix of Venge and Tarmac. My son has both, fully tricked out (Di2 and DA and Doge stuff) - same geometry. His favorite to ride and race is the Tarmac, but for Merckx TTs - Venge.
We GUESS the Venge vs Tarmac @ 28-29mph is good for 10-15 sec in a 30 min TT. We have a bunch of riders on both so that guess is an educated one.
Junior teammate Brandon lapped the P12 men's field Sunday on a Tarmac. Brandon also has / had a Venge.
Then there is Sagan winning the WC - Tarmac.

A bar like the Ritchey Solo Stream on a Tarmac may be as aero as a Venge with round bars (not that anyone would do that).
Thanks, those are good data points. Are they riding the Vias or the old Venge?

I struggle to believe the numbers they put in the marketing because you see so many guys (who have the choice) still choosing not to ride the aero bikes.
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