Originally Posted by
gravelslider
Both are great bikes but they are different ridingiexperiences. Warbird is more for racing an has a bit better vertical compliance. The renegade is a bit heavier, Is not quite as racy to ride but is v a very stable all day rider. Ride them both to see how you like the ride of each. They both are distinctly different and Janis jeeps the cost down with minimal image advertising.
Interesting that the Warbird is 'racy' and the Renegade is 'stable all day rider'.
In my size compared to the Renegade, the Warbird has a significantly slacker head tube, 10mm higher trail(so slower steering feeling), slacker seat tube, and a longer wheelbase.
The stack, reach, bb drop, and cs length are all a wash they are so similar in terms of measurements between the two bikes.
Given the geometry measurements that typically signify if a bike feels 'racy' or 'stable', its surprising that the Warbird is the 'racy' one.
Perhaps in other comparable sizes the geometry between the two is different and the Warbird is the racier one. I always question why someone who needs a 62mm bike takes opinion on a bime from someone who rides the bike in a 50mm frame size. The geometry is completely different to the point of incomparable.
Anyways, just commenting since it was surprising to the the slacker and more stable geometry be described as racier.