Originally Posted by
SurferRosa
Triomphe is great except for the rear derailleur. It's just a little clunky. Instead, use a Victory in the rear.
Triomphe and Victory have the same pivot and cage geometries which are almost the same as the last NR and first SR derailleurs. Campy adopted the cage geometry of the 2nd generation 4001 Super Record with a published 28T FW cog capacity on the Triomphe and Victory RDs..
SR 4001
980 - Precursor to the 990, Triomphe and Victory RDs
990 Precursor to the Triomphe and Victory RDs
Early Triomphe RD
Early Victory RD
From the front side they look very similar. The rear of the Victory RDs have a very poorly designed part that works like the angle adjusting screw on some derailleurs. The part is made of aluminum and gets easily munged.
Frank Berto RIP got on Campy's bad side. One of his comments was to the effect that NR rear derailleurs were very well made and would shift poorly forever!
As
JohnDThompson mentioned, Shimano RD run circles around Campy stuff until they finally gave in and started using dropped parallelogram designs.
Originally Posted by
SurferRosa
I like the look of Triomphe hubs/skewers too, but the races aren't Record quality ... and they may be on the heavy side. Still, they'll probably last forever if you take care of 'em.
Victory and Triomphe cones cups and axles were the same as those used on Nuovo Tipo hubs... 2nd tier quality but the better NR parts will interchange.
Miele Man If it's just the rim that's split, why can't you just have it replaced???
In the mid 80's or sometime thereabouts, Shimano started using a somewhat transparent brown grease. If a Shimano hub is packed with that original factory grease and still spins smoothly, I leave it alone! It never dries out like the white grease Campy used.
verktyg