I realize you want to use BF as a forum to just argue about stuff, but 1/2 of what you write makes ponderously little sense. If you're actually saying you know of people doping I don't even know what to say to you. But I do know I can put you back on ignore. There is no statistical evidence that masters dope at a higher rate than other demographics, simply because there's not enough testing and no one has studied it. You can toss around whatever pet peeves or theories you want. But lacking some sort of statistical analysis it's all simple speculation And with that I'm out.