Originally Posted by bikebreak

I'm a bit daft then, I ride tubular for JRA. I like tubular wheels because you can get light wheels around 1kg, and deep aero wheels about 1.3kg. I had a set of ax lightness with tires and cassette that weighed as much as clincher rims without tires or cassette. Used tubular wheels are very affordable compared to clincher since they are less popular, and glue tape and latex sealant in tires makes them easily usable for regular mortals without mechanics. Good tubular wheels are both aero and light already, and the wheels make more difference in weight (rotational mass) and in aero than the frame does