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Old 02-29-24, 08:53 AM
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L134 
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Originally Posted by Ryan_M
Yeah, just you've been vocal about me doing it wrong, yet you've been ambiguous about what you build to. You've pointed out I have a problem. You stated to aim for 10% deviation on spoke tension but accept a few outliers, then stated my wheel (part way through the build) is poorly built at 13% tension deviation including the outliers. This would imply my wheel is built at least as good as your's? Is it? Why are you critical (or hypocritical) of my numbers if you don't share yours?

I have no doubt you can build wheels well that will have a long and reliable service life. However, the fact that you've never plotted the data on your wheels suggests you really don't know how good or mediocre your wheels are. It doesn't appear you have a leg to stand on to criticize anyone. If you put up some data to support your alleged abilities then I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

[edit]Here's me talking about numbers, and me not sharing the latest. Currently printing parts to measure this better but lateral true as best as I can measure now is 0.2mm p-p, radial is 0.35mm p-p. The radial bugs me, it should be ok but seems bumpy. Spoke tension is 10% on the low tension side and 7% on the high tension side (~110kgf), including the outliers. Likely tweak a bit but I think I'm pretty close to done.[/edit]
It seems to me you are hyperventilating about differences that really don't make any difference. Read some books about it and decide for yourself. I think you'll find the "experts" don't agree with each other and therefore you will never find the answer you want to find. Find whatever expert you want to believe, go with it and be happy.
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