Old 07-01-19, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Kimmo View Post
People talk as if only one angle of stem is available, and they can't be flipped.
My 2 bikes came with the stem already "up" and only a 5 mm spacer on top. And there is a limit on the stem rise, typically 35 or so unless you go to adjustable stems. It would be good manufacturers just gave us uncut steerers, even if they had to add 2 cm of spacers on top.

Many modern bikes are aggressively low, while many actual riders require comfort over speed.

Just another reason to build bikes from frame up. .......
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