I really don't know what the answer is. We'll posit multitudes of opinions and scenarios, but likely not reach a consensus amongst us. One thing I do know though is a bunch of guys who aren't very good who love to yell (online) about dopers and testing as if that's the barrier for them. I suspect their idea is that everyone better than them is a doper. Which circles back to something I think fudgy posted, and that I feel strongly, is the unwholesome sense of accusation of another without any basis other than they beat me. It's kinda cancerous, and one of the main things that's led me to my '**** it' attitude.