Old 10-01-19, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dedhed
"In general" without "reasonable suspicion", you are not required in the US to provide ID, just name. But... you should then be prepared to wait as long as it takes for them to verify your information.
Driving a motor vehicle is a different ball game with a license required.

See "Stop & Identify" laws

See also "Terry Stop"
Well, Terry is about stop and frisk, so that's beside the point. The point I was making is that the cop never actually demands his ID, he asks for it, which he can do at any time. Anyone can ask you for it at any time (not just cops), and you can say no and refuse to hand it over. The guy here responds to being asked for it by handing it over and announcing his constitutional rights have been violated. By handing it over, he's waived his constitutional rights and the cop is under no obligation to refuse to take it.
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