Originally Posted by
cb400bill
Easier to give you an opinion if you include exactly which NA bikes you are considering.
Originally Posted by
The_NinthWave
The Presidio 3 has Gates CDN while Presidio 4 DLX has CDX, racks, fenders, carbon fork, dynamo, lights but it is 2350$ instead of 1025$
The Breezer Beltway has gates CDX.