Originally Posted by
Nachoman
Totally OT, but the group I ride with has a five minute rule and even that's a bit annoying for those of us that show up on time.
This particular ride was a one-off but in general I agree with that approach.
I have mellowed somewhat from my Army days of "if you're not early, you're late"--in that, I'm still early to everything but I accept that is not reality for most people.
However, I still find being late, especially being chronically late, to be completely self-centered and inconsiderate and have very little patience for it.