Originally Posted by 79pmooney

I guess I never said this but I wasn't talking about riding the front. I was talking about riding 20 or 30 riders back where all you get to see is a wall of jerseys and road hazards as they appear in front of the rider immediately in front of you. Self survival. (And if you go down, the next 5 are probably going down also.) Yes, responsible riding for those behind is important, but that's another thread.

Ben