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Old 06-16-19, 09:24 PM
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ConradH
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FWIW, I once went off the road into a low soft muddy berm. Bike stopped in zero distance and the fork folded back so the tire hit the frame. The frame tubes buckled at the lugs of the head tube. I doubt I was going more than maybe 10 mph. It's all about the forces, not the speed.
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