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Originally Posted by tandempower
Obviously the scooter shares were gaining popularity faster than bike shares were. Idk if that's because of Lyme and Bird investing in providing them in ample numbers and charging transit-fee pricing or because people just prefer standing and not pedaling to sitting and pedaling. Anyway, the moment you bring statistics and community reactions, etc. into it, the results are going to be biased by business interests that want to influence the study results, so there's really no point bothering with that sort of thing, not that statistics and community meetings really reflect anything about people's true thoughts and intentions at the individual level anyway.



That's a given. You can't have 100 years worth of automotive culture growth at the scale that has happened without it having culture-bending effects. The conspiracy of the majority is that the individual bends to the will of the majority. It's only a conspiracy to the extent it becomes so taken-for-granted that people stop thinking about it and questioning it consciously.



They're just biased in favor of driving because that is the established norm and because it gives them a little climate-controlled room to sit in while they commute. People have already relativist the drawbacks of commuting so most aren't going to jump into an experiment with alternative transportation, even if it offers them the prospect of improving congestion and sprawl overall in the long run. That is why so much time is needed to establish small-vehicle sharing as a viable and reliable alternative to driving.



It's not that equal of a comparison and you know it.

Here is what I get from your post.


1. Some venture capitalists have dumped several hundreds or maybe thousands of E-scooters into towns and counties were they haven't been requested. No scooter stores or scooters shops have been showing up in your town or my town and there are no numbers that have been posted showing the public is more interested in E-scooters but you and you alone see that as a sign they are gaining. Your analysis alone. "Idk if that's because of Lyme and Bird investing in providing them in ample numbers and charging transit-fee pricing or because people just prefer standing and not pedaling to sitting and pedaling"

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People that are trained on the study of these things can't be trusted nor can people affected by the addition of these scooters into their community because they aren't clear headed about the subject. In other words researchers and normal people are not a good source of information? "Anyway, the moment you bring statistics and community reactions, etc. into it, the results are going to be biased by business interests that want to influence the study results, so there's really no point bothering with that sort of thing, not that statistics and community meetings really reflect anything about people's true thoughts and intentions at the individual level anyway."

3. No matter how many years before the automobile people may have used other forms of transportation or even spread out into suburbs those old non automotive norms didn't have to be overcome? "You can't have 100 years worth of automotive culture growth at the scale that has happened without it having culture-bending effects. The conspiracy of the majority is that the individual bends to the will of the majority. It's only a conspiracy to the extent it becomes so taken-for-granted that people stop thinking about it and questioning it consciously."

4. So we are to reject the wants and desires of our fellow citizens because they cannot reason for themselves? We should not trust people that actually look into what people want and why because they are part of the conspiracy? But we should listen to an anti social loner as stated by the person, that lives alone and an old house in Florida as someone that knows how we as a society think and what is best for us? How did a transportation choice become the norm? Were people forced into it? "They're just biased in favor of driving because that is the established norm and because it gives them a little climate-controlled room to sit in while they commute. People have already relativist the drawbacks of commuting so most aren't going to jump into an experiment with alternative transportation, even if it offers them the prospect of improving congestion and sprawl overall in the long run. That is why so much time is needed to establish small-vehicle sharing as a viable and reliable alternative to driving."


This simply doesn't sound reasonable to me somehow.

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