Originally Posted by 900aero

Thanks guys. I'm still not sure what to do but this helps. I know the Pina is heavy-ish but I'm not that fussed about it if it fits & feels right. I actually don't have any other road bikes in the shed right now. Just sold a Cervelo S5, looking to go to a more trad road bike (the S5 was to cover for the occasional triathlon) and probably not invest quite so much. What ever I get will probably end up with some level of customising (seat, wheels, bars etc) so its really the frame and experience with that I'm looking for. Agree that working with a good shop is paramount and I have several to choose from who are good with each of these bike companies. I'll either be buying new from a shop or used via internet from private seller.

again - thanks.