Originally Posted by
downhillmaster
$3,000 is certainly well above the ‘not so expensive’ category so not sure where you are going with that?
And also not sure why you would recommend a fluffy botique brand like Deschutes. ‘Neat’ is not a particularly useful adjective when looking for a bike to own for a long time.
The OP scoffed at someone suggesting some a little more expensive when he said expensive is fine.
Deschutes is not a brand, Co-Motion is the brand and if you are calling them "fluffy" you must be sorely mistaken! I guess they do have a good niche in touring and tandems of quality but I guess yes they are a small shop and they make really fine quality frames so sure boutique whatever.
The OP should buy a Trek everyone has a Trek it is not boutique don't bother looking for quality