Originally Posted by cooker

I suppose that's true, that I want people to meet the solutions, instead expecting other people solve it for them. Again, as I often repeat, this isn't about you, but many people in rural areas (if they are not farmers or other obligatory rural workers), are living less sustainably than they would in a denser community, because of higher mileage, more distributed electric grid, larger land footprint, less efficient delivery of services and so on. How do we solve that for them?