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Old 08-21-19, 10:43 PM
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djb
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And re the whole hard case thing
It's all fun and games until you have a little crash, or your bike gets blown over by the wind against something hard and sharp edged, or you need to put your pannier flat in the bike box for the plane, or make it small empty to fit into a bag with other full panniers to go into the hold of the plane, or to have one as carry on and you need for it to fit into the metal framed template to allow it to be carry on.....

For me, all this stuff are the deal breakers and why pee wee didn't fly with his bike--great bike though isn't it, hadn't seen a photo of it in years.
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