Originally Posted by TimothyH

Maybe we ought to have a "Dream Bike" category - you are dreaming if you think you can actually buy and ride this bike.

In the IT industry we call this vaporware - products which companies claim to have but they are never actually available. The Jamis Renegade Elite is in this category. It doesn't actually exist anywhere.

I wouldn't wait three weeks for delivery of a new bike, let alone three months, or ten like some of you. General availability and reasonable delivery times are basic expectations when buying a bike at these prices. My money would have been returned, willingly or not, and spent elsewhere long ago.