Old 12-17-20, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Ok, so there is another thread about a series of events that went horribly wrong.
https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-...las-vegas.html

And, another group that was hit in Kalamazoo when the driver was so impaired that there was no safe place to ride on, or even near the road. A support vehicle may or may not have created a buffer.

We don't have all the details in the Nevada incident yet, but we know that there were riders, and a SAG/Support vehicle that ended up in the middle of the group.

They were riding along a divided state highway that had a narrow, but generally rideable shoulder, and fast moving traffic lanes.

I don't think I'll make this as a poll, but leave this as a general opinion topic. Say vehicle is accompanying a tight nit group that is generally spread out over less than a mile. A large organized "Century Ride" with riders spread out over dozens of miles would be different. In Nevada, it was a 4-lane divided highway with moderate shoulders.

Around here, most of the cycling routes would be 2-lane roads and traffic in both directions, some with wide shoulders, some without.

So, some suggestions:
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  • Drive as much on the shoulder as possible, even if that means running over rumbles, perhaps a wheel on the dirt, and occasionally dodging reflectors and signs.
  • Drive straddling the rumble strips or fog line. 1 or 2 feet of the car on the road.
  • Drive fully in a traffic lane (4 lane road, or 2 lane road).
  • Hop Scotch. Pass cyclists and park somewhere. Wait for them to catch up, and move ahead again. Or, do so from behind. No "Shield" function, although one could carry a "cyclists ahead" banner if in the rear.
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We are all seeing the woes of driving in the middle of a group. Although at this time, we can't say whether the Nevada accident would have been worse or not if the SAG vehicle was not with the group at all.
SAG car should be behind the entire group, hazards on*, and completely in the lane, because that's where traffic approaching from behind expect to see a car. If the SAG occupies the lane, passing traffic will have to completely change lane to pass the group.
*Given that the SAG in this instance is traveling ~20 mph on a 75 mph highway, maybe some accessory rooftop lights mightn't be a bad idea, assuming such things are legal etc

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