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Old 05-06-17, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by McBTC
True, true and being up front. It makes no sense to dedicate a sub-forum to --e.g., 'sustainability' but that happens here because LCF is 'Commuting' with an attitude that has nothing to do with bikes and the love of cycling. First and foremost the LCF movement is anti-car and not pro-bike to any greater degree than it is pro-walking. LCF as we see it playing out here on Bike Forums is nothing more than an enviro-whacko urban fetish.
LCF doesn't have to be us against them regardless of who you identify with.

Just because LCF isn't viable or desirable for everyone, It doesn't mean it's invalid or unworthy of accommodation. On the same token, those who need or choose to drive aren't a problem that needs to be solved in of it's self.

If both sides would quit passing judgment on, and fretting that the other is somehow taking advantage, maybe something positive could happen.
Its ridiculous to suggest the only answer is to choose between doing nothing to improve how we live, or resorting to harebrained utopian schemes.

Empathy, and respect.
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