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Old 05-18-19, 11:12 AM
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Geekage
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope
The Mineral Designs Mini Bar is basically a copy of the PB Swiss Tools PB-470 (mentioned in post 5, also licensed to Victorinox and sold badged as such) and the Barstow is a whittled-down Topeak Ninja C chain tool.

Kickstarter is crazy sometimes.
I think there are pretty significant differences between the PB Swiss PB-470 and the Mini Bar, starting with the handle design and going on to bit capacity, bit holding, and tire levers. I could go on about all the pros and cons, but that would be way too long.

Likewise with the Barstow and Ninja C. At first glance they're both handlebar end plug chain tools, but the designs are different in how they're held in, the handle, and what they've chosen to include or omit, both in terms of design and parts.

Saying they're the same is like saying all bicycles are the same because they have two wheels and a frame. It's the design decisions that makes one better for the road and an other better on singletrack.

No, I'm not being defensive
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