Originally Posted by
Trakhak
Pakeboi's carbon
Diamondback Haanjo EXP pick is probably what I'd go with, too (Pakeboi's link:
Here Are The 12 Best Touring Bikes You Can Buy In 2020). But the writer notes that "
my other lightweight bike of choice is the flat bar Salsa Journeyman"; aluminum, $800 cheaper. I'd be inclined to take either of those over a steel bike, especially for loaded touring, since I've never cared for the way heavily laden steel frames tend to wallow down the road, especially when pedaling out of the saddle.
Which steel bikes? None of my Surlys wallow. YRMV.