Thank you for your nice comments. O.K. Even though I listed my gear and weights, I am not necessarily trying to loose weight with the gear. Truth be told that I must disclose that at 5-6", I used to weigh in as low as 124 lbs, but now I am about 144, so as far as losing weight the biggest gain that I can make is with me. What I am after here is how to get this gear to fit in a bike packing format sans the panniers. It sounds like if I were to get the water bottles removed via camel back and someone wrote they think my tent & sleeping bag should go up front. (not sure about that). It also sounds like clothing should go behind the seat Stove under the down tube. So that leaves everything else to go in the frame bag: Camera, Sleeping pad, aluminum pan, hygiene kit, space for food? So that is where I sort of hit the wall at this point.