Originally Posted by
noglider
Surlys are heavy.
Probably a wash when compared to the 830, which even in its day was not a light bike.
ColSanders, personally I think the LHT has enough nice modern touches that you'll enjoy it, and new bikes are fun. If you were originally planning a total rebuild of the 830 with all new components, I think you might well get more fun out of making the frame one of your upgrades as well. And the 26" LHT is surprisingly fun to ride, the smaller wheels really give it a more nimble feel that you don't tend to get with 700C touring bikes. It will probably feel pretty similar to the 830, but probably even better - it might sound crazy, but that 1 1/8" threadless headset really does make a bike feel more precise IMO.