I got a pair of The Black Bibs plus earlier this week and took them out for a 45 mile ride today. I find the chamois is much more comfortable than my PI shorts. I'm 6'3" 210 lbs and they are a bit tight in the suspenders. I figure that if/when I order another pair of bibs from them I'll get the tall version which should be about perfect. I see they are now selling shorts and if they are as good a feel as their bibs at $35 that is a pretty good bang for the buck.