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Originally Posted by willibrord
Thank you.

critique of said study

https://cluelessdoctors.com/2018/08/...mpression=true

and the PURE study of 135 000 participants also from the Lancet



https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...252-3/fulltext
I'm not going to get much deeper into this, as I think the keto diet is a fad that's getting pretty close to running its course. I just don't think there's enough people who can sustain such a whacky regimen, and frankly I know I'd be sicker than a dog if I tried it, and I don't think I'm unusual in that regard.

That blog post is pretty much worthless as a refutation. Without getting into the woods, there's objections in there that are just absurd, especially the one about excluding adjustments to diets in the wake of a heart attack--her objection to this is not an objection to what they actually did.

I don't think the two studies are incompatible, as the one I posted demonstrated a u-shaped curve that showed increased mortality with high carb percentage. I don't have access to the full article you posted, but there doesn't seem to be anything in there that would suggest that a virtually all-fat diet is a good idea.

BTW, this brings up one of my main objections to the keto diet. Not only do you have to forego carbs (which makes getting fiber rather difficult), you also have to tightly limit protein consumption to maintain ketosis. A low protein diet is an awful idea for older people, and certainly for anyone who engages in endurance or body building activities.

Hard pass.
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