So, industry experts say we are going to have AVs, but not next year ... according to @
Walters.
Which @
tyrion posted ... in Post
#2 . And for those who can't be bothered to read a whole thread, @
Machka reiterated in post
#11 .
The rest has been chest-thumping and stump-pulling and whatever ... people trying to out-internet-macho one another .... but when pretty much everyone with something to say is saying the same thing ....