Originally Posted by oldbobcat

Well, all I can tell you is that the headtube on the Planet X is taller and you won't be able to load it up with spacers because the steerer is already cut, and it's most likely that the top tube is longer, too, and I have no idea how the Victeur was set up except that it had a 13 or 14 cm stem with 1.5 cm of spacer plus what looks like a 1.0 cm cone, that may have been installed +7 or -7 but you aren't telling us. And your neck and shoulders hurt.

So here's my last question. Why are you using the longest possible stem (14 cm) on a bike with a longer top tube than your old one, who's stem length you apparently can't remember. And why are you so focused on head tube length (stack) and refusing to consider top tube + stem length (horizontal reach)?