One more thing - as you probably can tell I am a big fan of All-City. Between me and missus we own two Mr Pinks, two Nature Boys Disc (regular and Reynolds 83), Space Horse canti, Big Block and GM. In addition to that we have several Surly bikes. So MCD was one of my first forays outside of QBP mothership. And I really really like it. I don't know if it is Mike's tubing selection, geo or whatever else - it builds up and rides noticeably lighter/nicer vs All-City and Surly road/allroad offerings (I had Pacer and Cross Check at some point as well). Had I known before how nice BMC frames are - I would have probably bought Mike's road frame instead of Mr Pink. Again - not to take away from GM as it is different animal from MCD or from other All-City bikes, I was very pleasantly surprised by MCD's ride quality.