Originally Posted by
HardyWeinberg
I'm confused by the terminology, are there cable guides for full-length housing (shift or brake) that do not require zipties?
Some frames have full length/hose guides for the rear brake only and regular braze-ons for shifter cables that require segmented housing and cable stops. In such case they may have clips or extra hardware that is used to attach the hose. Mine is like that, it came with few extra metal parts, that honestly I don't know how to use, but I don't have hydraulic brakes anyway. There were extra shims/ferules that go inside those oversized guides to allow for normal cable stops for a standard brake cable.