Originally Posted by
mack_turtle
if I go up sizes to get more stack, though, the longer the reach gets. additionally, the high BB on those bikes might not make a a stable ride. I'll keep looking though, and maybe I'll find something that will work.
That is true for some bikes. The larger size Antelope I mentioned doesn't push out the frame length as much. I could fit it with a 70mm stem and the frame reach and stack would be similar to my 363reach/578stack dropbar frame.
Lower BB also requires hunting around for.