I have a couple of pairs of Baleaf I bought off Amazon. Have seen them mentioned here before by others as well, so my 'cheapness' isn't too bad this time. Regardless, about the point I can wring out a quart of water (literally) from my kit nothing is going to stop chafing, which for me is summer (April-October here). I don't know how people afford to spend hundreds, if not thousands, on multiple saddles and shorts at $150 a pop each, so playing around has been limited. That said, I have tried a couple of saddles, and have found a tolerable amount of suffering in the saddle. Best of luck!