Originally Posted by
3speedslow
Well then, looks like the Cinelli stem I just got from Miguel is French! Silver and 90 though.
Originally Posted by
francophile
This comment made me realize I should probably mark up my original post.
I'm open to 3TTT and other brands. As long as the general look is roughly in ballpark with the 1A posted in my reply. There are some companies (Pivo, Belleri, etc.) I'm fairly sure didn't make any black anodized stems. I know 3T and Cinelli did, but not sure when it all started.
and 3speedslow can verify the information that I have assumed is correct. It has been the case with the couple that have come through my hands, but admittedly a small sample size.