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Originally Posted by Squeezebox
I've heard that Surly does tend to be heavier than most other steel frame manufacturers. I've heard they tend to use heavier gauge tubing than most others, In their attempt to build a stronger/ more durable frame. I believe that I even read that on Surly's site. Some other builders use other methods for frame strength, larger diameter for 1 example.
Personally I don't want/need a bicycle that can handle 100 lbs of gear. I'm happier with less gear and a lighter load, and a lighter bicycle as well.
But if you want overbuilt it's a viable choice.
To be honest, getting a light bike for touring wasn't even in my head at the time. I just wanted something that could handle being thrown around on singletrack with all the gear. I'd guess the bike was probably around 50lbs loaded up. I don't have much to compare it to, but found that it handled well both out on the trail and when we journeyed into town.

Brazeons didn't matter to me because I never intended on using racks.

Max's writeup pretty much sold me on the bike...
https://maxthecyclist.wordpress.com/...karate-monkey/
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