Originally Posted by
DaveSSS
Wait until shimano 12 comes out. Their microspline cassettes won't be all that cheap either.
Buying all the parts included in a groupo separately does not cost 2-3 times as much.
I paid significantly less for chorus 12 than a chorus 11 group from 2018.
Force and chorus 12 cassettes cost about the same, but both are much higher priced than 11 speed. Riding 5000 miles a year, you should get 3 years from a cassette. Tires and chains will cost more.
That is not what I said. I said a 12s chorus cassette is 3x the price of a 11s Ultegra and a rear DR is about 2x. That to me sounds expensive, - not cheap as someone claimed above.
Im sure 12s Shimano road will be more expensive than 11s, obviously, But judging by their 12s mtb parts they'll still be significantly cheaper than 12s campy and 12s Sram.