igreat lookin bike-- that Waterford! I'm having a ***** of time getting fitted well, been measeured for a 58, a 60 and even a 56! by diff. LBS, and diff. frames, but I havent found evrything to be... jsut right, ya know.. Whats your body chracteristics? Me, I'm short legged and long torso and arms... I need a long cockpit,,, so Trek bikes don't seem to feel right.... appreciate your advice, and we can discuss the W later too!