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zymphad : I agree totally with what you say about Endurance frames. Much more suited to people like me and what we're looking for.
The guy in the shop yesterday told me that Bianchi's Infinito CV was an alternative to the C60 based on my requirements but he thought the quality difference was enormous relative to the price difference in the C60's favour. He also told me that he was sure I could get a comfortable position on the C60 by keeping the front end as high as possible (he said 4 spacers max but this should be enough).
The reason I mention Campy/Italian bikes is that if I am not making up a "dream scenario" bike like the C60, I'll probably go with a made-up bike and tweak a few things rather than build-up a frame from scratch. I'll also set my budget at around £2,500. From what I've seen, there are hardly any non-Italian bikes in that range with Campagnolo. I looked at the Infinito with Chorus which costs £4,300 and with Potenza which costs £3,400; there is the Intenso ( a frame down from Infinito in the Endurance range) with Potenza at £2,300. I'll look at the Intenso and any second hand frames/bikes before deciding. I guess the Intenso is more than capable to help me bring my performance level up but I'll need to read reviews re comfort.
I won't go for the Infinito with Chorus - I'd be getting a lot less with the Infinito than with the C60 and Chorus which is only a few hundred pounds more from Maestro.
So my decision is now C60 or interim solution/future second bike at £2,500 which would seem to be between the Infinito, Kinesis titanium or Boardman.
Thanks again for the advice.
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battaglin Unfortunately, I cannot PM you until I have been a forum member for longer. Apologies