Originally Posted by Hermes

Also, when I ran the development company in the 90s, we had an oil and gas partner and we had an office in Houston. The oil and gas company would organize a dove hunting extravaganza. They would helo hunters into the field with dogs, bird boys, plenty of automatic shotguns / ammo and porters and the hunters would spend several days dove hunting. Each hunter would have two auto shotguns because the muzzles would heat up and then the hunter would switch shotguns. Guys would come back with very sore shoulders from firing so many rounds. And any outing in Texas would have to include copious amounts of alcohol. The goal was not to shoot the dogs or the bird boys. Cheney shot someone in the face on a Texas dove hunt.