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Old 11-30-18, 12:13 PM
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fietsbob
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It takes a long time for a conventional new bike to work off its carbon debt,

considering ; manufacturing , shipping around the globe and trucked to the store,
and all the packing materials used once and thrown away ,
to keep it in the same condition it was when wrapped & boxed
and packed in the seagoing shipping container..





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