Old 12-09-18, 07:50 PM
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HerrKaLeun
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Many people upgrade saddle and handlebar, feel free to do the same. But don't force manufacturers to do that for just you.

You sound like you think you know so much about bicycling. My suggestions is to just buy a frame and build the bike up exactly the way you like it. I will do that for my next bike, and won't whine on the internet why a manufacturer that builds millions of bikes doesn't just cater to my personal needs.
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