Originally Posted by
fietsbob
reach to MTB bar grips about the same distance as to brake lever hoods
HUH?!?!?! Measuring my bikes, I'd need about a 250mm stem on my MTB to do that! (And with my extremely short torso, my reach isn't very long.) There's about a 15cm difference between MTB grips and road hoods on mine, which puts my back angle about the same on the each.