picked up the eastern. Feels more solid weighs in at a few pounds lighter as well... small crank set feels nice and is out of the way... however it came with no brakes... Which i really need i ride trials around my house and they just dump out in to traffic most of the times... whats the advantage of running a strait cable over a gyro??? the thing seems well balanced for manuals but kinda heavy up front... Anyone know any decent brake setups at a reasonable price. The kid i bought the bike from said he has them but forgot them but then tried to tell me he wanted $180 for the bike and was over all a horrible person to deal with. So i doubt ill see the brake set up. He told me i can come back and get them but im not sure if a 40 minute drive is worth it. ill post pics of the eastern in a few minutes... it has animal grips and bar ends... and ill have to say this might of been worth the $50 over my haro's stock grips... Thanks for the help