I picked up my Felt Z5 for like $1300 from a shop which was a good deal, but even at full price, it fell in at about $1700 I think. Full carbon, 105 minus the brakes which is an odd combo but they work just fine. The bike is not the lightest thing in the world, but I think that has to do with the wheels which of course you know they skimp on. Looking for some replacements.