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Originally Posted by echappist
the other one being (at the risk of sounding like a killjoy), unless one knows the stay at the house is greater than 4-5 years (@TKP mentioned moving for schools), it's most often better to rent and invest (CD for the risk averse, index fund for the more adventurous). Taxes (1-2% of purchase value per year), closing costs (2-3% of purchase value), and agent's fees (6% of purchase value) costs that one has to eat. Also plan to spend ~1% of purchase value per year on maintenance. Don't use the NYT buy v rent calculator (as it assumes a 3% appreciation and the fact that itemized deduction would be more favorable), use this one: https://michaelbluejay.com/house/rentvsbuy.html

When my then partner (and now wife) and I moved to Wisconsin, we were seriously considering about buying, but as we will most likely leave in another ~3 years, it made no sense. The aforementioned costs on a $300k house (with tax rate of ~2%) would have been ~$95k for a 15-yr mortgage and ~$102k for a 30-yr mortgage. Breaking even would have required an annualized return of ~2.5% (and this doesn't take into account of the maintenance costs), and we weren't confident that we'd necessarily see that sort of return. Remember that buying for short term with a loan is basically investing using margin accounts: the gains could be amplified, but so could the loses. Caveat emptor and all that
So, the house we are most interested in is newly renovated and *appears* to be in stellar shape. We will definitely be having an expert looking it over before we put in a formal offer though. New everything though, even the roof.

We are essentially looking at saving 1200/month in saved rent if we buy the house we are looking at, even including taxes, utilities, and insurance. So our break even on closing costs and money down is 3-4 years allowing for wiggle room for repairs or improvements. So we get to build equity pretty quickly and have a silly low interest 30 year fixed. We were thinking of like a 5/1ARM but prefer the flexibility of a 30 year in case we decide to stay put. It's also in a relatively sleepy town that seems pretty well situated to be discovered by people who realize Brooklyn sucks and beacon is no longer cool in the not so distant future, but that's an educated guess on my part.

All contingent on a home inspection coming out clean of course!

Edit: ha, the calculator you linked says we are better off buying a house even after one year.

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