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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Note that Waymo is a part of the Google/Alphabet organization.
What makes you so sure that the Waymo cars are operating "quite well" in the limited area without driver attention? See: https://www.azcentral.com/story/mone...ds/2082664002/
And again, people imply what their own provided evidence cannot support. Because some posters are dishonest trolls, perhaps ...
Actual excerpts from that article:

Although the vans' ability to detect potential collisions and cars encroaching on their lanes seems beneficial, their strict adherence to the law and extreme caution in maneuvers such as lane changes can frustrate other drivers. [[Yeah .. . sucks when drivers scrupulously follow the traffic laws, I know.****

In multiple instances, we saw Waymo vans use their turn signals to try a lane change, only to turn it off if there was not enough room to move over.
[[color=#2980b9][[What's up with That, right? The car should go if there is room or not, right????]

Sometimes it took multiple attempts for the vehicle to successfully change lanes.

"There have been times it has missed an exit on the highway because it was being too cautious," said Beer, who said he uses the service multiple times a week to go out and run errands.
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Of course, if the vehicles had been any less cautious, we would be hearing complaints from the same people complaining now.]]

Waymo van avoids a near hit
On some occasions, the Waymo vehicles' ability to detect oncoming hazards seems apparent.

On a late November afternoon, we saw a van turn left from Federal Street onto Ray Road in Chandler.

The Waymo had the green light, but stopped abruptly before entering the intersection. A half-second later, a green Honda Element heading eastbound skidded to a stop in the intersection. It had run the light. The vehicles did not collide.
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Yeah, sounds like those AV vehicles really suck. Avoiding an accident? What's wrong with those stupid programmers??]]

On another occasion in mid-October, a different Waymo van was merging onto U.S. 60 when it was tailgated by an aggressive car.

The car passed the Waymo on the left as it entered the freeway. Meanwhile, the Waymo was moving into the left lane and had its left indicator light flashing.

The Waymo was about halfway or more into the left lane, but retreated to avoid the aggressive driver.

Even with the other car past it, the Waymo remained in the right lane and took the next exit about a quarter mile away, rather than merging onto U.S. 60.
[[Oh, Noes ... the car had to go a Quarter-Mile out of its way rather than risk a serious accident. That is SO wrong.]]

[[Again, the "problem" is that the vehicle is programmed to be cautious and to expect other drivers to be hyperaggressive dicks. And again, if the vehicles were programmed any other way, the same people whining now would still be whining.

The real complaint here? These AVs are Too Safe. That is what the complainant is complaining about here. These vehicles are Too Safe.

Sucks when more people don't get in accidents, doesn't it?]]

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