Originally Posted by gurk700

Yeah personally I don't step in bike shops anymore except to buy spares or try on clothing to see if they fit (which then I'll buy online for the most part cause it's cheaper)
I really don't care if people will try to guilt me by saying I should support local shops.
I've bought a bike ONCE in my life from a bike shop. Built it from scratch my own every other time. The one time I bought it from a bike shop a million things went wrong. Every time they would ask me to drive back 20 miles, leave the bike to get it sorted.
I explained I'm capable of swapping parts just let me take it off and swap it in shop cause I don't wanna leave the bike overnight. They would refuse it.
Wouldn't be an issue but the 3 times I took it back, left it and picked up next day, they either screwed something up, forgot to install back a piece of the bike or gave me a wrong part.


Yeah bike shops have 0 value to me. I have all the tools, build my bikes the exact way I want them and save a ton of money and time.