[QUOTE=JohnDThompson;23056705]That's only an issue with indexed front shifting. A friction shifter will allow you to overshift slightly to get the chain on the next ring, then trim to stop the chain from scraping on the derailleur cage.[/QUOTE
I'm old too, but I haven't used a friction shifter for over 30 years. I had Ultegra STI in 1991. By '93 I'd switched to Campy indexed shifting. In 2020 I switched to SRAM AXS electronic.
Last edited by DaveSSS; 11-01-23 at 06:52 AM.