Originally Posted by
I-Like-To-Bike
Sorry, Roody, you are on a different page.
Please enlighten about which of these Monderman scheme references involve making motorists feel less safe when traveling at high speeds, or high speed road traffic at all. You might also enlighten about how many communities have adapted the Monderman scheme for anything beyond a few isolated trial applications in a few isolated locations.
A lot of traffic calming measures are about the perception of speed. If you make the two painted cycle lanes a bit wider and the part for cars a bit narrower, drivers will slow down like it's a narrow road, despite the fact that they are allowed to cross the line that marks the cycle lane.
Monderman's ideas are also partly based on drivers slowing down when they come across a situation with little overview and predictability. The influence is not that there are many whole cities or villages that follow the principles, but that councils retreat as rulemakers and let cyclists, pedestrians and the occasional car work it out.