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Old 10-24-18, 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tandempower
Are there bike lanes, or would you be in the same lane with the cars for 16km? I do ride on roads without bike lanes, but it is irritating to have cars swerving around you all the time. I much prefer riding in a striped bike lane or other paved shoulder.

This is taken from the top of the big hill I mentioned. It's about 10 km to get there.

And the shoulder disappears about there for a while as well. A screaming descent with no shoulder ... for a while. After a bit, we can descend in the bus lane before we're dumped into the main street traffic of the city.



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